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Ktm 1290 super duke R

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Posted 04 January 2019 - 05:18 AM

Elated is the best way to describe my thoughts. Flying down to California to pick this bike up on the 18th. I couldn’t pass it up due to the price. They never even put fuel in it. I have wanted one since the prototype video came out.

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Posted 04 January 2019 - 08:06 AM

Nice! I have a black one. Get the Ktm heated grips and the straight pipe to eliminate the kat. Other then that I did a rear blinker mod but the bike is great. Also make sure to pick up a 60mm socket for the rear nut. You can get them at Northen Hydraulics.
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Posted 04 January 2019 - 08:30 AM

Super jelly. I really want to take one for a spin. They look like a hoot!
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Posted 04 January 2019 - 08:52 AM

View PostCBR600F4i, on 04 January 2019 - 05:18 AM, said:

Elated is the best way to describe my thoughts. Flying down to California to pick this bike up on the 18th. I couldn't pass it up due to the price. They never even put fuel in it. I have wanted one since the prototype video came out.

https://www.motounit...r=xAllInventory


Hell, I got excited when I read this new thread title!

I got to ride one of these at DCTC. A generous student of mine offered me a test ride. Holy shit that thing has POWER. Such a fun ride!!
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Posted 04 January 2019 - 09:02 AM

I mean... I would gladly put up one or two of my kids as collateral...
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Posted 04 January 2019 - 09:37 AM

I finally got to looking at the link. That's the price of a new 600. Nice find!

Should be a fun trip to bring that monster home.
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Posted 04 January 2019 - 11:02 AM

Man, that's a good price. I may need to check if they have another for me to buy. I'll be in Fresno, CA on April 26, maybe an Uber down to Whittier and a 2500 mile break-in ride home?

No that doesn't sound good for the KTM.

Anyone want to ride a Super Duke around CA for 1000 miles between now and April? Rent is one oil change at 500 miles. I'll do the change at 1000 before heading home.
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Posted 04 January 2019 - 11:20 AM

Any thoughts on breaking it in? I know their are two thoughts. Take it easy or ride it like you stole it.

Thoughts?
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Posted 04 January 2019 - 11:31 AM

Woohoo! Motorcycle talk on MNSBR!! :rockwoot:
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Posted 04 January 2019 - 11:41 AM

View PostCBR600F4i, on 04 January 2019 - 11:20 AM, said:

Any thoughts on breaking it in? I know their are two thoughts. Take it easy or ride it like you stole it.

Thoughts?

Defintiely vary RPM and power load. Holding at cruising rev ain't good for anything new. If you were to bring it to a track with 0 miles, I would say beat the piss out of it. But that's just me. And I'm not claiming to be an expert, but I have researched it a bit and found professional and interweb jockey opinions and results from many sources.

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Woohoo! Motorcycle talk on MNSBR!! :rockwoot:


I was thinking the same! :lol2:
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Posted 04 January 2019 - 02:50 PM

View PostCBR600F4i, on 04 January 2019 - 11:20 AM, said:

Any thoughts on breaking it in? I know their are two thoughts. Take it easy or ride it like you stole it.

Thoughts?


I've had great luck with the break-it-like-you-want-to-ride-it philosophy. 30 minute trip to work along surface streets. Hard on the throttle when leaving every stop. Go through all gears and revs. After getting it well heated during the ride in, a 8-9 hour cool down followed by another 30 minutes heat on the way home. Change oil at 250 miles after week one and 500 miles after week two and considered break-in done.

Did at least 10 new bikes that way including a new 2000 R6 that I only jetted and pipped for the FUSA 108hp limit class. I think it came in at 106.8hp on the dyno when I qualified it for the race weekend.

Don't baby it, beast mode from the start. (YMMV, Do at your own risk, I take no responsibility for your actions. Don't listen to me as I'm an idiot)

I've always felt the manufacturer's baby-it guidance comes from them trying to cover their ass by giving the least risk approach for personal or machine injury but that to bed the rings right, you need pressure not passivity.

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Posted 04 January 2019 - 03:40 PM

I'm pretty sure the rings were fully seated (via dyno testing) before the engine was ever put into a chassis.

A fuel-injected, liquid-cooled, electroplated-bore engine machined to modern manufacturing tolerances should not needed much break-in at all.

If any special care really is needed, the ECU could (and would) be programmed to not permit harmful operating conditions (rpm and/or power limitations).

I'd just be careful to attain full operating temperature before going nuts with the throttle -- something I always do, but even more so with a new engine.

I probably wouldn't run it on a racetrack until it's seen 100 "street" miles or so, but that's just me.
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Posted 04 January 2019 - 04:04 PM

I trust Jim more than myself.
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Posted 04 January 2019 - 04:46 PM

I too trust Jim more than myself for this stuff. But that isn't saying much because I'd trust almost anyone more than me when it comes to internal engine stuff. (The seat-the-rings-right comes from some other wrench in my past)

I'm interpreting Jim's point as it doesn't really matter how you do break-in since the manufacturer takes care of the important stuff before you get the bike. If that's true the baby-it approach is even more appropriate--especially from a liability view--as that makes a lemon-bike's catastrophic failure less likely to harm the rider.

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I'd just be careful to attain full operating temperature before going nuts with the throttle -- something I always do, but even more so with a new engine.


The "full operating temperature" is something I always find hard to wait for on the little Aprilia 2-stroke and the piston showed signs that I didn't wait long enough in the past. I really try to be better about that now and let it fully warm up before leaving the driveway. That engine lives above 12,000rpm most of the time it is running.

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Posted 04 January 2019 - 04:50 PM

On a 2-stroke achieving full operating temperature is even more important!

Kent, how many valve shims did you have to change on those 10 bikes after your 2-week break-in? Not many, I'm guessing.

In the old days, with an iron bore, it did take awhile to seat the rings.
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