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Posted 04 December 2018 - 12:41 PM

Want to get a new dirt bike. I had a Honda CRF250R for the trails it was horrible. Thinking about getting a either a Husqvarna TE300 or Husqvarna FE350. Thoughts/experiences?
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Posted 04 December 2018 - 02:18 PM

What didn't you like about the CRF in the trails?
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Posted 05 December 2018 - 05:27 AM

View PostPOE, on 04 December 2018 - 02:18 PM, said:

What didn't you like about the CRF in the trails?



Even on the softest suspension settings it was far too rough. No electric start. When you have been riding for 10 hours and crashed a lot kicking the bike over was hell.
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Posted 05 December 2018 - 08:35 AM

Makes sense.

I have a YZ250F for trail use. I really like it, but the only bike that I have owned to compare it to is an XR250. The XR as an amazing bulletproof bike, but I do enjoy the stiffer suspension of the YZf. But that may be because the XR was too soft and there's a middle ground that would be better. I'm sure the power profiles of trail bikes would be better suited than an MX machine too. I've wanted to try a 250-300 two-stroke trail machine. Seems like the KTM has mastered that recipe.
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Posted 05 December 2018 - 08:54 AM

I have done a Ktm Demo day and rode the 300 2 smoke. It was light and geared perfect for the woods compared to the 4 strokes.
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Posted 05 December 2018 - 11:33 AM

My '18 YZ250FX feels like cheating. Stellar woods machine.
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Posted 05 December 2018 - 11:37 AM

View PostTorchsport, on 05 December 2018 - 11:33 AM, said:

My '18 YZ250FX feels like cheating. Stellar woods machine.


I'm jealous
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Posted 05 December 2018 - 12:45 PM

Yz250x smoker with Rekluse... Ive ridden plenty of bikes in the woods. KTM300, KX450, YZ125, to name a few. The 250x is hands down the easiest to ride with the most predictable and forgiving suspension for single track.
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Posted 06 December 2018 - 05:31 AM

View PostWillMill, on 05 December 2018 - 12:45 PM, said:

Yz250x smoker with Rekluse... Ive ridden plenty of bikes in the woods. KTM300, KX450, YZ125, to name a few. The 250x is hands down the easiest to ride with the most predictable and forgiving suspension for single track.


Good to know. Cost of ownership is going to much lower on a Yamaha versus Ktm/husky
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Posted 06 December 2018 - 11:55 AM

View PostTorchsport, on 05 December 2018 - 11:33 AM, said:

My '18 YZ250FX feels like cheating. Stellar woods machine.



yeah agreed my 16 is a fun bike as well. although my clutch lacked a constant "feel" until I filled it with the gytr guts, it also hates the cold but I do aswell, 80 hours later im still happy.
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Posted 07 December 2018 - 06:49 AM

View PostWillMill, on 05 December 2018 - 12:45 PM, said:

...with Rekluse...

I've never ridden a Rekluse (and I know a lot of good riders swear by them) but I'd suggest something different.

Riding trials bikes has taught me to have one finger ALWAYS on the clutch lever, and to use it a lot. Problem is, that's quite fatiguing.

I like this solution: https://www.clake.co...onelightclutch/ Fairly expensive (currently $372 USD, delivered from Oz) but very high quality. Here's a pic of the guts.

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My metaphor is that if you're okay with an automatic transmission in a car, the Rekluse may suit you well. But if you're a manual gearbox kind of guy, you'll probably like the Clake
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Posted 07 December 2018 - 10:19 AM

Jim, do you know of any competitor products to the Clake? Or is there really no comparison based on quality that actually works? I ask because you're right, it's spendy as hell. I just bought a 2000w generator for $399 on Black Friday. Seems like an item that would have much more value than a clutch lever.
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Posted 07 December 2018 - 10:31 AM

View PostJim Hubert, on 07 December 2018 - 06:49 AM, said:

I've never ridden a Rekluse (and I know a lot of good riders swear by them) but I'd suggest something different.

Riding trials bikes has taught me to have one finger ALWAYS on the clutch lever, and to use it a lot. Problem is, that's quite fatiguing.

I like this solution: https://www.clake.co...onelightclutch/ Fairly expensive (currently $372 USD, delivered from Oz) but very high quality. Here's a pic of the guts.

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My metaphor is that if you're okay with an automatic transmission in a car, the Rekluse may suit you well. But if you're a manual gearbox kind of guy, you'll probably like the Clake


The clutch is still fully functional. It just makes it less work so you dont need a finger on the clutch in the super slow tight spots. My last bike was a YZ426. That thing did not like to go slow. If I didn't constantly use the clutch, it would kill, and just about send me over the bars when the back wheel would lock up. Now, I still use the clutch quite a bit for rev-ups, I just never have to worry about killing the bike trying to get up a difficult hill, and then trying to re-start the bike mid-hill. Thats where Ive found the greatest appreciation for the rekluse, the difficult hills.
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Posted 07 December 2018 - 11:43 AM

View PostPOE, on 07 December 2018 - 10:19 AM, said:

Jim, do you know of any competitor products to the Clake? Or is there really no comparison based on quality that actually works? I ask because you're right, it's spendy as hell. I just bought a 2000w generator for $399 on Black Friday. Seems like an item that would have much more value than a clutch lever.

Luke, before I bought the Clake I tried something called a Clever Lever made by a local guy (I even visited his shop to buy it). http://www.midwestme.com/ It only works on Magura master cylinders, so I had to buy one of those too. (Edit: I see there is also a version for Brembo).

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The Clever Lever trades ease of pull for a longer lever travel. The problem I had was that the clutch would not disengage completely despite adjustments and some modifications I made to try to accommodate it. It was intended for KTM enduro bikes (on which it may work great) but not my trials bike. I'm still using it on my "B" bike, but have the Clake fitted to my "A" bike. The Clake was not without some teething problems, but overall I've grown love, love, love it.

The thing about both products is that they allow (require?) just one finger on the lever leaving your other fingers to really grip the bar in gnarly situations. Yet you have very precise control over the clutch action without fatigue -- again useful in gnarly situations.

All I can say is that the "1-finger constantly" technique has transformed my riding. How do you put a value on that?
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Posted 07 December 2018 - 12:19 PM

Cool, thanks Jim

On the Grom I'm a 1-finger clutcher. I love it. But every bigger bike requires 2. Street/track bikes aren't as vital to 1-finger clutching as off-road, so that's not a big issue. But with off-road, I would love to have 1-finger clutching on my dirt bike. I just don't want to pay nearly $400 for it haha
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